04 August 2004 @ 11:49 am
Important question  
Would it be good to have a paypal account? Can it be dangerous?
Tell me please....cos the rules changed and you can do it with money order in Germany.
So I do have the possibility now.
 
 
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[identity profile] kia-ora.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 03:42 am (UTC)
I know MANY people use paypal, but I've heard quite a few things about it that made me very sceptical.
I've considered starting an account myself 'cause it would be make some things definitely easier as it's such an accepted way to pay for things online, but... I don't know...

Google it and then check out some of the sites that warn you about paypal. You'll either feel it's worth the risk or you'll decide against it. But yeah, it would be cool to hear from some people I know (or in this case that you know) about their personal experiences with paypal.
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 03:58 am (UTC)
mm....what did you hear that made you sceptical?
That's exactly the thing...it's easier.... lj..and ebay....lj!!!
Transaktions to the states.
[identity profile] kia-ora.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 05:44 am (UTC)
Basically, that some people did have serious problems with their accounts. Transactions were not made or with (very) wrong amounts, money was suddenly gone, etc.

But that, as [livejournal.com profile] aelora has pointed out were maybe problems that have been fixed by now? 'Cause it certainly has been a while since I last considered making an account and have checked these things.

You know, maybe we should just risk it, but start with small amounts? Sure, € 10 or € 20 is a lot of money for us poor students (*gg*) and I wouldn't want to lose that amount either, but it's better than starting out with a 100 quid right away. So should we try? :)
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 07:31 am (UTC)
oh..I'd do very small accounts....something that doesn't piss me off too much if I loose it. and maybe if i want to buy something I can always transfer money.

I think I'm gonna try. It's a loot easier to get paid lj then as well.

I want shruuf back!!!
[identity profile] kia-ora.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 07:59 am (UTC)
If I'm going to try, I will only use it for LJ. I don't trust paypal enough to do eBay transactions...
What I read in [livejournal.com profile] catmoran's comment doesn't help to ease my doubts, either. I guess you're on the safe side, if you only use the account to transfer money to others, but don't accept others to transfer it to your account.
Who the hell gives paypal the right to just keep all the money that was in your account anyway after they freeze it??

When I get home, I'll do some more reading on all this, but I think I'll try paypal for LJ. Anything else - a no-no for now. :/
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 08:32 am (UTC)
I think it's because they're only a pseudo bank. I'm not sure...it's a rule.
And actually there's this thing I want to buy from ebay... *g* only with paypal...lesigh.
[identity profile] kia-ora.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 11:17 am (UTC)
http://www.paypalsucks.com/

Read this carefully, then decide.
I guess you're ok with small amounts... but... :/

(Wie funktioniert das eigentlich, da überhaupt erstmal Geld hin zu überweisen? Würde das laufen, wie wenn ich dir Geld überweisen wollen würde oder muss das auch über deren website laufen? Ich würde denen nämlich so wenig wie möglich Infos von mir geben wollen!)
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 12:15 pm (UTC)
Ich glaube du musst schon bei der anmeldung deine volle addresse angeben....

Ich weiss einfach nicht.... die seiten sind negativ..aber ich weiss, dass sowas ja auch nur die schlechte seite zeigt....

mein problem sind mehr meine daten...
[identity profile] kia-ora.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 01:39 pm (UTC)
Klar zeigen die nur die schlechten Seiten. *lol* Wofür paypal gut ist, weißt du ja schon. ;)

Und meine Adresse dürften die ruhig haben. Ich wäre nur beunruhigt, was meine Bank-Daten angeht. Denn von meiner Adresse können die mir nicht einfach unbemerkt Kohle klauen oder so einen Kack!
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 02:10 pm (UTC)
Eventuell must dui bankdaten auch abgeben...
also kontnummer..blz und so......

aber die dürfen das nicht einfach s nehmen.
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 02:11 pm (UTC)
was zum teufel hab ich da geschrieben?!

insane!! *huggleS*
[identity profile] kia-ora.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 11:27 am (UTC)
Here's even more interesting stuff:

http://paypal.ctyme.com/paypal/paypalsucks.htm
and
http://www.paypalwarning.com/WallOfShame/Default.asp

Want more? *lol* ;)
[identity profile] kia-ora.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 08:00 am (UTC)
And I want [livejournal.com profile] shruuf back, too, of course!
Just a few more hours. :)
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 08:49 am (UTC)
I know.... <3
[identity profile] maiaj.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 03:45 am (UTC)
I've never had any problems with it and I use it quite a lot, for ebay and lj mainly. Obviously you have to watch out for the scam emails asking you for your details, but that's about the only thing.
[identity profile] kia-ora.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 03:52 am (UTC)
I used to get those scam mails a lot - even though I don't even have an account. So I've learned to ignore those immediately. ;)

Completely unrelated: *lol* @ your icon! :D
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 03:59 am (UTC)
mmm.. I got those scam emails sometimes.
Thanks sweetie.. and I have to agree with [livejournal.com profile] kia_ora. The icon is awesome.
Signe: The O.C. Ryan/Seth[identity profile] oxoniensis.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 04:36 am (UTC)
I use Paypal, for LJ accounts, Ebay, my website payments and private payments. I've never had any problems (and I've not had any scam emails about Paypal either). Personally, I'd find it hard to manage without.
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 05:18 am (UTC)
I just don't kno what to do really... sighs

thanks you <3
[identity profile] aelora.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 05:08 am (UTC)
I've used Ebay since it began. There were problems at the beginning but everything seems fixed since then. I use it for Ebay, LJ, payments between friends, etc. Never had a problem. My SO has used it more than me, and he's never had a problem either.
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 07:26 am (UTC)
Thank you sweetie! I just can't shake that last shred of doubt...but I also heard that paypal became a lot safer since ebay took it over.
[identity profile] improved-fleur.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 05:32 am (UTC)
I use paypal since 2 mont, mainly for Ebay. Don't have problem 'til now.
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 07:27 am (UTC)
*hugz*

thank you :)
[identity profile] improved-fleur.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 07:27 am (UTC)
Elli, I need your opinion!
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 07:32 am (UTC)
where? your lj? email?
[identity profile] improved-fleur.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 07:33 am (UTC)
http://fbleue.free.fr/sleep6.jpg
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 07:39 am (UTC)
First thing..this is so awesome!!!! *squeeee*

Now to the nitpicks: Lex's hand is way too big and the texture is odd compared to his face. Then there is this fuzzy part between his chin and his jacket that seems odd to me.

The color of clarks neck is too red and too light and maybe his head has an odd angle.

However... I had to look real hard to see those mistakes :)

*smooooches*
[identity profile] improved-fleur.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 07:47 am (UTC)
Lex's hand is way too big and the texture is odd compared to his face

it's the perspective. It's like this in the original photo.

Thank you. *luv you*




[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 08:34 am (UTC)
Really? It looks swollen! ;)

*huggleS* <3
[identity profile] improved-fleur.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 08:35 am (UTC)
http://fbleue.free.fr/sleepbeauty.jpg

[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 08:40 am (UTC)
mucho better.....lex's head has some dent in it ;)
But the hand is great now and so his clarks neck.

You're so good at this!!!
[identity profile] improved-fleur.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 08:53 am (UTC)
You're so good at this!!!

Thanks, Hobbit, even if you're the only one who believes it.

*tickles*
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 10:16 am (UTC)
But i'm not... you've got plenty of admirers!
*grins*

and tickling won't help... I'm totally non ticklish.
[identity profile] dhisana.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 06:05 am (UTC)
I always use paypal for ebay and stuff like that. Never had any problems. It makes my life a lot easier.
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 07:33 am (UTC)
Thanks for the info :) smooches
Cat[personal profile] akacat on August 4th, 2004 06:58 am (UTC)
I've used it for years, and never had a problem. The two most common problems are:

1 - If you ever accept payment from someone whose account is backed only by a credit card, paypal will start charging you transaction fees.

2 - If someone disputes a paypal transaction paypal may freeze both accounts, and you'll probably never get the money that was in your account. This doesn't happen very often. But just in case, I withdraw money from my account asap.
[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com on August 4th, 2004 07:36 am (UTC)
Well..I can only load my account with a money transfer/money order....does that generate problems?

And what's this thing with special accounts...?

Thanks!
Cat[personal profile] akacat on August 4th, 2004 03:02 pm (UTC)
So that's why you were worried about my post. lol!

I don't know of any special problems with money order accounts. I guess it means you'll always have money in the account that you could loose if they freeze it, but it's not very likely.

I'm not sure what the special accounts are...

afaik, there are basically two types of accounts, personal and business. Personal has minimal fees, but you can't receive payment from anyone using a credit card.

If you try to receive payment from someone using a credit card, you have to upgrade to the business account, which has fees for every transaction.