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elli ([personal profile] elli) wrote2005-04-08 11:37 am
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LOST German Premiere

Last monday, LOST aired for the first time in German TV. [livejournal.com profile] kia_ora and I went over to [livejournal.com profile] shruuf's place to watch it, just to know how bad the snychronization would be.

You know..I wanted to make this post tuesday, but as with so many things, I just forgot....

The thing about low expectations is, it's hard to be lower. Knowing the original voices, I guess it's hard to hear it differently.

The voices were decent for the most part, there are just three characters that were so much off the radar, it was hard to swallow. Cos really, Sayid is, to me, one of the kindest, gentlest beings and it manifests not only in his voice, but in the way he structures phrases. His voice is soft and sexy and considerate. When he speaks you get the idea that he respects people. For him, in the German version, to be the only person who talks to everyone using the German word du. Which is a personalization of the word you. Or rather, Sie is the distancing that everyone else used, well to me, it speaks of pure to understanding and diregard to the character. Furthermore, Sayid does not come from a German turkish Ghetto, he does not need to see, ey alta, or ey man, or whatever he said to poor Hurley. That's an equivalent of Hey, Dude, Well it's actually more disrespectful. That's just sad, don't you think.

The second charactor that was way off, was Locke. Man, the second he opened his mouth i jumped back, cos there was no way to expect that. WTF. It's not a bad voice per se, it#s just extremely different.

Then please jog my memory, who had the same snychronazation voice as Dawson on Dawson's Creek? Was it really Jack???

Sun and Jin had the original voices and I wonder how they will do it,once Sun starts speaking english. *boggles*


And an interesting translation was Bear Village vs Bärendisco (Beardisco) lol.


Then there was the whole advertising that was just so so very bad. First of all, they showed a special with interviews and stuff before airing that pilot and it was so full of spoilers it's not even funny. And on the website, they gave away spoilers that were episodes away.
Every character has a bio on the page. They gave away that boone and shannon are actually not really brother and sister. an appearantly, Kate is "on the run". Well, she isn't technically, she's already been caught!!!


For a series that, to me, just lives so much on the element of surprise and suspense that is just so wrong.


Oh, btw... I need a sound clip or clip of Josh Holloway saying "We love to entertain you". Cos gosh..that was hot.

[identity profile] elsmoka.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
big fat word here!!

i HATED Locke's voice urgh. and Hurley's slang was way off. i think boone had the dawson voice. but i am not sure because i was horrified. it's true that most dubbing voices were decent but nothing good compared top the original voices. i also thought kate was too schrill...
and it's weird to see dom in dubbing. he has this very british way of mouth movement. and thatz with a german voice was very strange.

and the special was spoilery like hell! the BILD had a one page ad where so much was given away, too. horrible.

we'll see how that will go. and I am very scared for Desperate Housewives because the voices in the trailers seemed very weird...

Yay Dubbing :/

[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
*g*

Hurley was Dawon, so yeah...that cannot be good.

it's true that most dubbing voices were decent but nothing good compared top the original voices.

That where the low expectation come in. I just didn't have high expectations and seriously...German dubbing always is worse. One exception being captain Janeway. I didn't notice about Charlie though... thank god.

and the special was spoilery like hell! the BILD had a one page ad where so much was given away, too. horrible.

Is is just me, or do German people not understand the show, I mean wtf??? They shouldn't be ruining it like that. It seems to me the network just thought wow... hit rated show in the us, let's buy it. But then have no idea what it actually means. They should wake up and realize it#s not the us version of "Verschollen".

And deperate..lol..tuesday, right??

[identity profile] shruuf.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
hurley's got dawson's voice :(

[identity profile] shruuf.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
that's the list I found. I don't know how accurate it is, well...

Matthew Fox – Jack - Peter Flechtner (David James Elliott, JAG)

Evangeline Lilly – Kate - Ranja Bonalana (Shannen Doherty, Charmed)

Dominic Monaghan – Charlie - Tommy Morgenstern (Benjamin McKenzie, The O.C.)

Maggie Grace – Shannon - Magdalena Turba

Harold Perrineau Jr. – Michael - Charles Rettinghaus (Peter Krause, Six Feet Under)

Jorge Garcia – Hurley - Gerrit Schmidt-Foß (James van der Beek, Dawson's Creek)

Josh Holloway – Sawyer - Johannes Baasner (Chris Eigeman, Gilmore Girls)

Malcolm David Kelley – Walt - Aljoscha Fritzsche

Daniel Dae Kim – Jin - ???

Ian Somerhalder – Boone - Ozan Ünal (Christopher Marquette, Die himmlische Joan)

Naveen Andrews – Sayid - Tayfun Bademsoy

Terry O'Quinn - Locke - Lothar Hinze (wie in Alias)

Yunjin Kim – Sun - Moonsuk Kang

Emilie de Ravin – Claire - Ilona Otto (Alexis Bledel, Gilmore Girls)

[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
That is just scary. Are they all recycling voices?? so lame. and poor hurley with Dawson#s voice. that just doesn#t fit. Thank god I've only seen the oc in german twice or jacks voice would have been such a turn-off.

[identity profile] shruuf.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
i guess they've just got a limited number of voice actors or something?

everytime hurley spoke and i closed my eyes, i could see dawson talking to joy potter. WRONG!

uuh. i just got a letter from MD.H ... should I open it? o.O

[identity profile] shruuf.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
d'oh. you know what was in there? invitations for the open day, but no results. asdghfh.

[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
I also thought...maybe resutls....but it wasn#t.

i wanna know!!!

[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
But that#s stupid..every actor can be a voiuce actor..at leats most..and I#m sure there are tons of actors in Germany looking for a job.

and that's not a nice image.

oh..the letter is just invitations that we already got last week. tzzzz

[identity profile] elsmoka.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
Right. I forgot about Claire having Rory's voice!
and maybe Jin will have the same voice he had on 24 and ER and Angel, that wouldn't be too bad...

they are always recycling voices. Sometimes it feels like there is the same male voice on every series :)

[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com 2005-04-24 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
ut it's sad!!! and it sucks!!

[identity profile] elsmoka.livejournal.com 2005-04-24 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
but it's successful. RTL II just moved big brother to sunday because Lost gets all the viewers :)

[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
poor hurley :(

[identity profile] coffeejunkii.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
ah well, german tv proves once more that it SUCKS when it comes to dubbing. i'm glad that you have access to the original version thanks to the internet.

Sayid does not come from a German turkish Ghetto, he does not need to see, ey alta, or ey man

oh god. *headdesk* that's pretty embarassing.

[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com 2005-04-11 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so glad myself. It is just so bad. I mean, every show.

And it IS emberassing. I couldn't believe my ears. urg. Do you watch LOST??

[identity profile] coffeejunkii.livejournal.com 2005-04-11 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
i can't watch dubbed versions of american shows anymore when i'm in germany. it's just too painful.

i do watch lost! you didn't know that? i guess i don't talk about the show very often in my lj because i usually discuss new eps in [livejournal.com profile] sarahjane12's lj. i did make a post about this past ep, though. i love lost--it's the best new show this year from my pov.

[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com 2005-04-28 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
especially if you're not used to the voices at all.,..if you start with the german voices it's not so bad....but.... urg.

I'm really not up to date with my flist right now...sucks majorly.
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[identity profile] alejandradd.livejournal.com 2005-04-08 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Sun and Jin had the original voices and I wonder how they will do it,once Sun starts speaking english.
They'll have a Sun with two different voices. They do that over here a lot. For now, Lost is subtitled over here, but once it gets to a network channel...

I swear there are four dubbing actors in all of Latin America. The worst part it's that there's one particular actor that, every time I hear him, I think "hey, it's Michelangelo from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!"

[identity profile] elli.livejournal.com 2005-04-28 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
but i think two voices will suck..I mean....it will be so confusing-!!!
I wish they did subtitles everywhere.

and omg...turtles..but they were cool"!!